FOX KICKS BUTT

Lots of our liberal posters love to bash Fox news. They ridicule it for not being a real news channel but only a PR machine for the Republican party and refuse to acknowledge that it does a good and fair job of covering NEWS.

There are O’Reilly, Beck and Hannity and there is NEWS coverage.

The big TV news story this week was the rescue of the miners in Chile.

Fox blew the competition away.

This wasn’t commentary. It was a NEWS story and people turned to Fox to get the story.

  • saneman

    Please, it does a terrible job of reporting the news. I dare you to watch the Daily Show for a week and then point out a single inaccuracy in what the Daily Show points out in what is wrong with FOX NEWS. just one.

    Does it mean the other networks are doing a good job? Not really. But while there is some pandering to politically correct issues, the more that tend to be liberal, don’t ignore the safe route they have taken when it comes to anything military related. They were slow to wake up to the Iraq mess. They were asleep at the wheel as to what was the real problem in the afghannistan area, blindly accepting everything Pakistan did as our allies while cheerleading a war in Iraq until it became obvious to them they got duped. When Bush, Paulson and others were promoting TARP, they gave them a free pass the same way Obama, Geither and his cronies got a free pass by the same networks. Yet all conservatives remember is when a democrat gets the benefit of doubt. It’s that kind of selective memory that makes me laugh.

    There is definitely a need for a niche for intellgent conservative and liberatarian issues. But FOX doesn’t meet that test for me. At least John Stossell on FOX BUSiness news seems to be more sincere about what he looks for and I have no problems with people like that.

  • Isteve Roissy

    Interesting that the politics of the women on the view are correlated with their attractiveness.

    Elizabeth Hasselbeck: Hottie, who almost all guys would consider a sexy, pretty girl and has probably experienced life that way since junior high – Conservative and content.

    Barbara Walters: Not a hottie but in her day an attractive woman who probably always had a reasonable amount of male attention – Middle of the road politically, maybe veering a bit left to fit in in showbiz/TV.

    Whoopi and that Joy Behar creature: Bitter, angsty, the system is unfair because all the boys were looking at the Elizabeth’s and ignoring us, wah wah, America is evil, wah!

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      Interesting, but how do you explain all the good looking air head, liberal actresses in Hollywood?

      • Isteve Roissy

        They adopt the political viewpoints that are fashionable in Hollywood, just like wearing the trendiest clothes, shoes, etc. The motive is to fit in. If they were immersed in a society that was confident and patriotic, they would follow along as well. Besides, their actions belie their expressed views – big energy sucking houses, private jets, moving to neighborhoods with “good schools”, no voluntary additional taxes being paid and usually looking for every loophole to avoid paying taxes they owe.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          Show biz people are phonies? Get out of town!!!!

  • Chipped Ham

    One of us REALLY needs to organize a November 2 Election Night Viewing Party for all of us and Scooter. Cmon, how great would that be?!

    We can serve as a support group for him while the American people tell us (with their votes) what they really think of socialism.

    I’ve already taken November 3rd off. Election nite is gonna be a par-tay!

  • http://hotmail.com Gary

    John,
    I just looked at the latest sweeps numbers and the cartoon network has a higher rating than CNN, and MSNBC….wait I see it all….Olive Oyl, played by Piglosi, Pepe Lepew, by Obama…and Fat Eddie Rendel by….Wimpy,…sorry wimp, didnt mean to insule you…..

  • Scootermojo

    It’s a fact that most of the people in this world and especially this country are stupid…so it’s common knowledge that Fox would get the highest rating: stupid people watching moronic partisan drivel.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      Is that why there are more Democrats?

      • Scootermojo

        according to you most of the country is conservative…you said that a few days ago.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          It is. By far.

          • Scootermojo

            but you just said there are more Democrats…who you call liberal socialists….uh, what kind of circular logic are you trying here?

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            You said Fox’s large audience was proof that most of the people in the country are stupid and I asked if that’s why there are more Democrats. You’re the one who’s being inconsistent.

    • Paul

      Saying that it’s a fact that most people are idiots is such typical boilerplate liberal thinking that I’m surprised you couldn’t come up with anything better.

      It’s necessary for them to put forth that everyone else is stupid in order to attempt to make themselves look smarter. That, then, is what they think is an effective way to have their ideas look acceptable.

      As in “You people are so stupid, you can’t take care of yourselves. Here, let me set up a government that will do it for you. You don’t have to do anything for yourself except attempt to continue to breathe, and even then we’ll let you know when it’s time to stop doing that.”

      That’s the kind of mentality that spawns this kind of inane comment.

      • Lefty

        Wait wait wait. Nobody, either side, wants to fund those who are milking ths system. That’s another one of those dividing generalizations. It’s a negative aspect of entitlement programs, but they do in fact do positive things. Left and right wish there was nobody abusing the system. It’s just the left doesn’t do enough to fix it, the right just wants to get rid of the whole program.
        Calling America stupid has nothing to do with that anyway. Allow me to borrow from Bill Maher:
        On the eve of the Iraq War, 69% of Americans thought Saddam Hussein was personally involved in 9/11. Four years later, 34% still did.
        a Gallup poll says 18% of Americans think the sun revolves around the earth.
        only about half of Americans are aware that Judaism is an older religion than Christianity? That’s right, half of America looks at books called the Old Testament and the New Testament and cannot figure out which one came first.
        At a recent town-hall meeting in South Carolina, a man stood up and told his Congressman to “keep your government hands off my Medicare,”
        polls show that a majority of Americans cannot name a single branch of government, or explain what the Bill of Rights is. 24% could not name the country America fought in the Revolutionary War. More than two-thirds of Americans don’t know what’s in Roe v. Wade. Two-thirds don’t know what the Food and Drug Administration does.
        Nearly half of Americans don’t know that states have two senators and more than half can’t name their congressman.
        THAT, my friends, is why America is stupid. Nothing to do with welfare, or making us “elites” look smarter. Dem’s the facts. America is dum.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          Public schools.

  • Ochotexto

    Your source Deadline is linked from the Drudge Report., another right winged hack outfit. They also do a nice job covering the NFL. But any type news with a political bent is one sided and a fountain of misinformation.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      And your information comes from down the middle sources.

  • Mason

    What non-watchers don’t understand is that even the commentators always have people from both sides of the argument on the shows. Longtime dem pollster Pat Caddell is one of their most frequent guests. Olbermann and Maddow rarely have conservatives. Mathews will occaisonally but he doesnt let them say much.

    Independent polls have consistantly said Fox News is the most balanced of cable news organizations.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      Hannity only uses liberals for punching bags on his panel discussions. He’s the weakest person in their lineup. 75% of his show consists of his guests agreeing with him. It’s boring.

      • Mason

        As a very staunch conservative – I agree with you. I am not a Hannity fan. I don’t like the one sided nature of his show. He seems to have a difficult time having a discussion – he sticks too much to talking points.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          One trick pony.

        • DormontDirtBag

          Mason,

          I agree completely. I’m pretty conservative and I find Hannity hard to take. He resorts too often to cheap shots or just talks over his guests. And he uses “literally” incorrectly all the time. As in, “Obama and the Democrats are literally spending like druken sailors.” Drives me nuts.

          • Richard

            I don’t understand how Hannity got so big. Conservative talkers like Limbaugh and Beck and hell, even Jim Quinn, got famous not so much for their political views, but because of their personalities. All of those guys have a background in top 40 radio. They know how to entertain.

            As far as Fox News goes, I have a lot of respect for Shepard Smith. The guy is a good reporter, is even handed, and is also not afraid to buck the company line.

          • saneman

            I have no problems with Shepard Smith. Another guy i liked on FOX was that guy who used to moderate a late night show on weekends where he had talking heads of different ideologies do a roudtable of sorts. I think his name was Eric something.

            Compared to Hannity, Bill O reilly is at least a lot more tolerable. While O Reilly can be disengenuous with his ‘independent” ideology, he does have segments that are pretty good when dealing with non political issues, such as bad judges releasing criminals unfairly.

            Greta Van Susteran to me is a lightweight host meant to soften the presence of FOX’s lineup. She rarely tackles serious legal issues. usually lightweight banter that is on par with CNN headline News inanity.

            What I don’t understand is why local news plays it so safe. They seem afraid to offend anyone. Yet they play a lot of family unfriendly news reports about hookers and gangs which are just trivial aspects of the day’s news. So why not at least go the extra yard in presenting edgy news in other areas?

          • Richard

            There’s no level of complexity with Hannity. It’s just that Liberals are bad, Conservatives are good.

            All the nonsense and bickering in this country would stop if we could agree on several things.

            1. There happen to be intelligent, informed people who are liberal. There happen to be intelligent, informed people who are conservative.

            2. Neither group is hell bent on destroying the country. Neither is Hitler.

            3. The solution to most problems on the political landscape lies somewhere in the middle, usually, between liberalism and conservatism.

            4. Real solutions can only be found through intelligent debate. Remember, the person on the other side thinks differently than you, but the goal is the same.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            I agree to an extent, but there are some principles that are not up for compromise of negotiation.

  • Mason

    Wow, that is impressive. the libs can rationalize however they want – but probably the most telling number to John’s point is that MSNBC’s number didn’t budge. It supports what most people suspected. the only people watching Olbermann, Maddow, etc are the far left fridge element of society.

  • JustAnotherBloke

    This isn’t quite on-topic, but did you see Whoopi and the faux Bette Midler walk off the set in the middle of an O’Reilly appearance yesterday on The View? Haven’t laughed that hard in a while.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      Played right into O’Reilly’s hands.

      • http://justwatchthegame.com Bobzilla

        When Whoopi and Joy took a hike, that program improved 200 percent.

      • Tim

        Then O’Reilly later apologized.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          Sort of. They played right into his hands, though. He got a lot of mileage out of it on his show last night. If you added up the total historical and political knowledge of Whoopi and Joy Behar, it wouldn’t fill a thimble. Especially Behar. She’s a walking, talking, Hollywood liberal, bleeding heart cliche.

          • Gaylin Howards

            They looked like idiots leaving the show. I don’t think it is the wisest idea to built the mosque there, but it’s their choice. Hasselbeck was very quiet during all of that. She’s usually goes against the other women so I would have been curious to hear her position.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            She says they have the right but should be smart enough to know that it’s a stupid in-your-face move. Which is common sense and why 70% of the people agree with her.

          • Lefty

            70% of whom? In the last poll I saw the majority of New Yorkers are fine with the Mosque. It’s the loony loud minority who raise a stink. O’Reilly’s own fill-in, Laura Ingram, interviewed the wife of the Imam last year on his show about the mosque project, and Ingram said “you’re doing great work,” “Please come on my radio show” and wanted to get the word out. NOW, that it’s become a popular anti-Islamic thing to do, she and the rest of the a-holes are bashing it.
            This is ridiculous. Did you see the 60 Minutes piece on the guy who’s building it? Couldn’t be more New York if you tried. Married to a catholic. You idiots just get caught up in your conservative, close minded vitriol that you cease to be rational beings, and join the mob mentality.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            This is from those right wing nuts at CNN>

            (CNN) – A proposed mosque to be built two blocks from the World Trade Center has little support nationwide, a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll suggests.

            According to the new survey out Wednesday, nearly 70 percent of all Americans oppose the controversial plan to build the mosque just blocks away from the solemn site in lower Manhattan while just 29 percent favor the construction.

            Broken down by party affiliation, 54 percent of Democrats oppose the plans while 82 percent of Republicans disapprove. Meanwhile, 70 percent of independents said they are against the proposal.

            The poll also showed opposition did not vary widely by age.

          • Ken

            Behar is a moron.

            O’Reilly was pretty funny the one time he was on that show. He said to Behar that, “your name is Joy, you should be joyful.” Then he made this puss imitating the typically sour look she has on her face.

            Is there a Mr. Behar? Talk about a living hell.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            Rosie O’Donnel would make a good Mr Bahar.

    • Mason

      That was hilarious. It clearly demonstrated the liberal mentality in debate. They didnt like that they were in the 30% – while us knuckle draggers who believe the mosque should not be built so close to ground zero, were in the vast majority.

      One thing to be thankful about for BHO. Much like Carter, he has buried liberalism (and by liberalism, I mean the extreme 25% of the dem party) for another generation.

    • saneman

      The View is a joke. I personally do not give a damn about the issue. I could care less if they build a mosque or not. But for Whoopi and that shrill as hell Joy Behar to walk off the show like that pretty much was lame.

      • David McGwire

        Who dresses Whoopi?

        Why does she always look like the homeless woman who befriended Kevin McCallister in Home Alone 2 Lost in New York?

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          Because that’s who she wants to look like.

  • Matt

    Don’t forget Greta. Her ratings beat everyone else too.

    • Ken

      I think Greta is one of the best people in TV news. Great, fair interviewer.

      I like Cavuto too.

  • Gaylin Howards

    Simple explanation. People are going to watch the news that they are familiar and comfortable with. Based on what you’ve said in the past, all of the other stations and cable outlets are liberal, so there is one channel that conservatives watch and that’s Fox. The rest of the liberals will watch the other 3 networks, plus several other cable stations. So if there are 5 million liberals and 5 million conservatives watching, 5 million conservatives will watch Fox and the 5 million conservatives will be spread out to watch CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and NBC.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      That’s true but their resesrch show that a lot of democrats watch and I was talking about NEWS not talk shows. They beat all of the other cable networks combined. They can’t get numbers like that by only appealing to knuckle dragging birthers, which is what lots of liberals like to assume.

      • Gaylin Howards

        Those numbers aren’t completely true. They beat the combined cable networks, but not when you add in the tv networks. It is impressive though.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          I’m talking about cable networks.

          • Lefty

            There’s a great explanation for the disparity in numbers. BECAUSE Fox is largely entertainment and not news, people are more apt to watch. That’s why Beck’s numbers are dropping. He’s become boring. Less entertaining.
            CNN has failed because they haven’t changed their format in the last…. ever. They didn’t adapt. They’re strictly news and people don’t want to watch. MSNBC beats them with their opinionated shows, and Fox blows them all out because you have idiots thinking they’re great, and sane people tuning in to hear what crazy batguano thing they’re gonna say next. Call it the Howard Stern effect.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            Nice try. Fox blew the competition away in the coverage of the miners’ rescue. That had nothing to do with entertainment.

      • howard

        I know it doesn’t count for ratings, but strangely FoxNews is always on in a lot of businesses and restaurants that I go to during the day. I think it has something to do with them being one of the first 2 have a ticker at the bottom of their screen.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          I remember having to complain at hotels that carried CNN and not Fox. Fox actually had to encourage their viewers to request it when they went to hotels. Long after Fox passed CNN, you couldn’t get Fox.

          • howard

            If I am at a business and it’s on with one of their programs that aren’t news, like Beck, O’Reilly, Hannity, etc…I always ask for it to be turned off-and have never been turned down. I found that even my conservative friends think their idiots too…because like Rush–it’s just the schtick that worked for them. What’s irresponsible is that people really do mistake those shows for news…hence Faux News.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            Do you do the same when you see Keith Olberman or Maddow?

          • howard

            No. They’re never on anywhere that I go 😉

          • howard

            But I am serious…I can’t watch any of that crap. Either Fox or MSNBC. I find it so over the top partisan to the point that in my eyes they have no credibility.

  • Mike

    You forget to lump in Van Susteren and Cavuto with Hannity, Beck and O’Reilly. Oh plus Fox and Friends.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      News. Not commentary. Liberals like to call it Faux News as though it’s not a real news network. It covers news as well oR better than every other network.

      • Mike

        I wouldn’t know. I doubt I watch 1 hour of cable news (CNN FOX or MSNBC) a month. I will say the news on the Fox News website is fair.