YEAH, HE’S A SOCIALIST.

If you refer to Barack Obama as a socialist, you stand a really good chance of being called a moron, a radical, or a racist. Probably all three.

Stanley Kurtz is an author and a contributor to National Review. He’s also an investigative reporter.

If what he knew about Obama had been made public by the mainstream media in 2008, Obama would have lost in a landslide.

But the media were too busy sniffing around Wasilla, Alaska to find out the relationship between Sarah Palin and her librarian.

I had Kurtz on my radio show a few times. He is not a knuckle-dragging stereotypical right wing, bomb throwing birther.

I brought him on my KDKA radio show to talk about the roadblocks that were being put in his way as he tried to investigate Obama’s record in Chicago politics. Compare the number of stories you saw or heard about Kristol Palin’s baby compared to the number of stories done on the Annenberg Challenge.

Never heard of if? Kurtz wrote about it a lot during the 2008 campaign and had trouble finding anybody who didn’t work for Fox News to listen to him.

Kurtz has a new book that is a result of two years of research into Obama’s past and his serious socialist sympathies.

I said on the radio in the Summer of 2008 that there was no way that Barack Obama could be elected president. I made the mistake of assuming that the media would actually take a serious look at his background. They never did because they were in the tank for him at hello.

The piece in National Review has enough damaging evidence to make it impossible for Obama to be re-elected but, unless the dinosaur media let him tell his story, he’ll just be preaching to the choir.

Obama has been secretive and dishonest about his past. He’s the closest thing that we’ve ever had to a Manchurian Candidate and….yeah..he is a socialist.

With a capital “S”.

  • Walt sulletin

    Clinton also inherited a bad recession. Bush started those wars and only one was necessary. As for 9/11 the economy and market took off after 9/11 and then went downhill in 2003. Nice try.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      Bush also inherited a recession and had to overcome 9/11.

  • anthony s. corrado

    it HAS been obvious to anyone who pays attention that barack obamais a socialist. people in pittsburgh vote union. thats why pittsburgh is in such deptand has major job losses. what company would want to set up shop where they have to cow tow to powerful labor groups. wake up pittsburgh! this man dispises capitalism! and he is destroying race relations by empowering the race card!we will never win the war on terror with our boys hands tied! we will never win a war fighting as we are FORCED to do by this democratic partyof socialist who love giving handouts to get votes. shame on the NEW democrats. if J.F.K. were alive he would be considereda “conservative republican! wake up dems your party is being ruined by progressives. go look it up. mr. stiegerwald is spot on in his comments.bravo!the mainstream media hid facts and outright protected obama.liberals with money always try to tell us big government is the way.he is totally unqualified to run this country.read the facts!vote these bums out!and eric holder should be brought up on charges!he deliberatly turns his back on voter intimidation and stated we were a nation of cowards. hmmm… wonder what axe he is grinding. all obamas czars and cabinetare screaming liberalswithan agenda!stimulas?read the bills,look at the health care bill.nancy pelosiis unfit. they talk to us like they are elitists and we are fools. i for one woke up years ago and am paying attention. i didnt vote for him.I am american.i love capitalism and the free market.i dont want handouts nor will i be bought by scraps tossed by this socialist takeover attempt. he offered change,just wasn’t the kind you thought.and he new exactly what he was doin!i can’t beleive how many of you still defend him.WAKE UP!!!!!Thank you mr stiegerwald you got class,brains and guts! keep tellin it like it is!

  • Ochotexto

    “Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage…….Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors.” – Ayn Rand

    Right out of the libertarian playbook itself.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      And your point is?

  • Ochotexto

    My stocks went way up again today. This socialism shit is great.
    I seriously don’t think yinz can find anything wrong with BO hence you attack his family., preacher., etc…. I hope all you righties have such backgrounds that can stand up to that test.
    William Jefferson Clinton came. From pure white trash and he gave us peace, prosperity, and a balanced budget. Then yinz went and f’d it all up. There’s your history lesson Pitt Alum.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      William Jefferson Clinton’s political butt was saved by Dick “The Toe Sucking Conservative” Morris who convinced him to move toward the center and “triangulate” the republican’s positions. It was the republicans taking over congress that FORCED Clinton to cut spending. He had been saying that there would be deficits for “as far as the eye can see” and vetoed welfare reform twice. How muych ceedit were you giving Bush when the DOW was over 14,000?

      • Ochotexto

        Yeah., Morris should get all the credit. I give Bush zero credit. He took office with the largest surplus in American HISTORY., he left with the largest deficit. Those are just facts .

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          His defiscit looks like a surplus compared to what we got since the dems took over in 2006. Clinton had the internet boom. Bush had 9/11 and two wars.

          • Gary M.

            I know the democrats love to roll out the good ol’ days of Bill Clinton and talk about the wonderful surplus and balanced budgets. Those were Republican agendas that Newt Gingrich championed and Bill fought at every turn. And the main thrust of the good tidings were not based on spending reduction, but the result of a booming economy. The economic boom was the result of over estimates by Wall Street of the Dot Com’s and when Bill left office, the bubble burst. (I just don’t remember W. saying he was left to clean up Bill’s mess at the drop of a hat either….) If you add to the mix, that if the Clinton’s had there way, we would have had socialized medicine years earlier and that would have negated any chance for a balanced budget…you just get the idea that there is some revisionist history going on here.
            And now we find ourselves without a booming economy, with socialized medicine, and social spending at all time highs. And some people think this is a good thing…..very scary.

          • Federalist10

            Not only did Bush not blame Clinton over the “inherited” mess he was faced with – remember in 2001 the economy was in a recession – he also never lamented that the economy would be doing better if only we hadn’t been attacked on 9/11. Say what you will about Bush, intellectual honesty would require that you recognize he never went around saying “Woe is me” for the misfortunes he was faced with that were or were not his fault. He simply attempted to deal with them. I don’t like the way he necessarily dealt with them, but he did not constantly make speeches asking us to feel pity for him having to deal with the situation.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            When you throw a trillion dollars at a problem and it doesn’t solve it and only makes things worse, it’s no longer somebody else’s fault.

    • Paul

      Stocks are going up because people know that a tidal wave is coming in less than 3 weeks.

  • Gaylin Howards

    People are entitled to their opinions on Obama, but with this topic, you are being disagreed with by about a 10-1 margin. Neither are necessary right or wrong, but most people on here would disagree with you.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      The posters disagree. That doesn’t mean the majority of visitors do.

      • Gaylin Howards

        The posters are the ones commenting and voicing their opinions. And the posters are the same loyal people that are on here daily that sometimes side with you. Other than Mason, you have no support on this one.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          Mason’s not alone and it wouldn’t matter if he were. I linked to a piece that was written by a guy who has been reseasrching Obama’s background for more than two years. Not one of the poster has made a good argument refuting the evidence that the guy has always been a socialist.

          • Gaylin Howards

            People have made all kinds of points, but you refuse to accept anything other than your own opinions. Your evidence is one right wing nut job that wrote an article. I could turn around and cite 100 articles about how Bush is in with the Saudi’s, but I don’t believe it, just like I don’t believe Obama is a Socialist and going to turn this country into a Socialist society.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            You can believe what you want. Have you evr actually heard one of the Bush’s talk about their relationship with the Saudis? I’ve heard Obama say the Bill of Rights is flawed because it doesn’t give the government enough re-distributive powers. The idea that someone with that much of a distorted view of what the country was founded upon being president is more frightening to me than anything the Bushes and the Saudis could cook up. How do you know this guy is a nut job?

          • Chad Farthouse

            I heard the President tell “Joe the Plumber” about spreading the wealth around, but it was in the context of letting the tax cuts for people making more than $250,000 a year expire. He has maintained and not run away from this position. You keep claiming that you have personally heard Obama taking about the flawed Bill of Rights. Could it be that you’re perpetuating bullshit again by repeating this hoax?

            http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbiathesis.asp

            If so, what does this say about the quality and credibility of your news sources John? I know you’ll say that it is beside the point, that there are plenty of other “clues” proving this bat-shit crazy, conspiracy theory that you cling to, but it is shady, bogus, and pathetic. This isn’t the 1950’s, the Communist/Socialist/Red Menace Boogeyman scare tactics are silly. Also, you never answer my question about Joe McCarthy, was he a hero or a zero to you?

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            On Joe McCarthy..not a hero and definitely not a zero. He was right more often that he was wrong. If you want to hear Obama lament the fact that the constitution is too much about negative rights and that there’s not enough in there that tells the government what it MUST DO in your behalf, go to Youtube asnd search “Obama redistribution of wealth 2001.

          • Federalist10

            I figured John was referring to the interview Obama gave to Chicago radio station WBEZ in 2001 where he lamented that the Warren Court in the 60’s did not carry the civil rights movement further, in that it was constrained by a flawed bill of rights that put limits on what the federal government can do rather than expanding its powers. It’s in his own words. I’m pretty conservative, but I’ve never heard John or anyone else espouse the conspiracy theory you’ve just attributed to him.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            That’s the interview. Just one more piece of evidence that, if put together with his other writings, sayings, actions and associations and presented to a jury, would have him convicted of being a socialist in 15 minutes.

        • Federalist10

          Mason is also not the only one who agrees with John. Some of us just don’t comment.

    • Mason

      Gaylin, just because a handful of people on this blog disagree with John, does not mean he is wrong.

      You are going to see a tidal wave of defeats in congress this year – that includes RINO republicans – some of which were purged during primaries. After 8 years of wars and liberal media bashing, independents decided to give something else a try. In large, large numbers, they now regret that move. the elections in november will be historic in the change-over. when that happens, will you admit that you are in the minority? and John is in the majority in his opinions?

      • Gaylin Howards

        I never said he was wrong, I said 10-1 of the people on here disagree with him. Opinions are opinions, but the majority of people commented that they disagree. And I couldn’t care less if the Reps take over in Nov. I care about ideas, not which party they are. That’s the big difference between you and I. Also, in 2008, everyone said that Reps were done for a long time. In 2010, they are in favor again. Political alliances by this country are cyclical which is why I do not care what happens in Nov and why I didn’t care what happened in 2008. See, that’s your problem. You are looking at it as a black and white issue w/Dems vs Reps. I couldn’t care less. It’s about ideas regardless of the party. I’m actually a Rep and look forward to voting for Reps that have good ideas.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          People who disagree are more likley to respond than people who agree,

  • Walt sulletin

    Quit saying he believes in universal health care because he has never been on record saying it. Several people have mentioned that same point on here and yet you keep saying it. You have nothing else to go with so you keep bringing up the false points. Stick to facts and not fantasyland.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      I’ve heard him say it. Just as I’ve heard him say the Bill of Rights and the Constitution are flawed because they give too much power to the individual and not enough to government. That alone should disqualify him from ever holding any office.

    • Mason

      Walt, when people like me (conservative) refer to Obama wanting universal health care – I for one am referring to single payer health care. Of course Obama doesnt say that in a major news conference, he would never get elected. but he has said it multiple times in the past. Here is just one clip from a few years ago, and there is another radio interview from about ten years ago where he openly talks about the need to incrementally convert and that it will take 10-20 years. 5 minutes of research is all it takes.

      http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-in-03-id-like-to-see-a-single-payer-health-care-plan/

  • Walt sulletin

    If you are only getting 1500 a year, then you rarely maxed out and never put that much into it. You are better off with SS as opposed to a bank. Anything less than a 4% return and you’d lose money due to inflation. Yes rates were higher before but inflation was also higher so it cancels out.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      I meant 1500 a month.

      • Gaylin Howards

        Still 1500 a month isn’t much. You rarely maxed out, so you never put as much into the system. If you live to be 85, you’ll get more out than you ever put in with the cost of living increases that will be back in 2012.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          I made pretty good money and always made more than the maximum. The point is that what I’m getting back for what I put in is a joke and the only way a program that stupid could stay afloat is if people were sent to prison for not participating, which is exactly what will happen to you if you decide not to pay.

          • Gaylin Howards

            OK, that doesn’t make sense. People go to jail for not paying their taxes all of the time, but that really isn’t the point. If I knew what you paid in your whole life, I’d be willing to bet that you’d get more out of it and then some if you live to be 85. The numbers were shown above as proof.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            My financial advisor should go to prison if he can’t get three tmes the return on my money than I’ll get from SS.

  • Satire 24/7

    Have there been any ads which clearly outline what good these goofs are going to do if we elect them? If there are I haven’t seen any. All the ads tell me is why the other guy is bad. Not a da*n thing about how they will make this state or country better, with a concrete, measurable plan in place. . That is other than the obligatory, “I will BLAH BLAH BLAH “”Jobs”” BLAH BLAH BLAH “”Jobs”” BLAH BLAH BLAH. BLAH “”Jobs””. That’s been pretty much it or am I missing something?
    ***Note to brain dead voters—-THERE ARE NO JOBS! Well decent ones at least, outside of the government.

  • http://justwatchthegame.com Mario4Prez

    I was just telling a friend that any moron can run for public office. Take Christine O’Donnell, saying that if evolution were real, we’d be seeing monkeys turning into people before our very eyes. I thought she was a college dropout, not an 8th grade dropout.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      I’ll take someone who thinks monkeys can fly over someone who thinks the Bill of Rights is “fundamentally flawed.”

  • Ochotexto

    Let’s judge the guy on his own character, actions, and performance. Not on his father, his minister, a teleprompter, or shallow cries of socialism. Sure., he has been far from perfect., but the Dow is at 11,000 when handed to him at about 6. He’s regressed the fake war in Iraq and saved the auto industry. I also pay less personal income tax under BO than W.
    I’m looking for more too but considering what he inherited I’d give him a C.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      You’re judged by the company you keep.

      • Mike

        Sarah Palin married a man who joined the Alaskan Independence Party which wants a vote on whether Alaska can secede.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          Not true. I’ve spoken to the head of the AIP. It’s a myth.

          • Mike

            And of course John I can find their own website which lists this vote as there goal a vote on whether to secede, remain a state, or convert to a territory:

            http://www.akip.org/goal.html

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            I spoke with the woman who ran the organization and she explained that Alaska was promised many things when it agreed to become a state and most of the promises have not been kept and they believe that they have the right to back out if the government doesn’t fulfill its promises. It was two years ago, but I’m pretty sure tha she said he was never a member. She did not come across as a whacko and made a lot of sense. She was one of the best guests I ever had on my show.

        • Mason

          You’re going to compare Todd Palin to reverend wright, robert ayers & bernadette dhorn, frank davis, etc.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            The woman from AIP did a great job of explaining why the organization exists. The federal govt. reneged on promises that were made when Alaska became a state and they want the options that were promised to them–one of them being the ability to become an independent state.

          • Tim

            Fine. Let them become an independent state and out from under our Nuclear umbrella. Then let’s see what happens when “Putin rears his head.” Also Alaskans conveniently forget that they recieve the most Federal dollars per capita of any state.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            That would be their choice.

      • Ochotexto

        So you admit you don’t judge him on merit then ? Wow !

    • Blasto

      Ocho,…Stop polluting the hyperbole with facts.

  • Satire 24/7

    The man got elected because we have too many morons voting and they wanted to “feel good” about themselves by voting for a minority candidate. But why would anyone expect voters to be knowledgeable when you listen to these elected dolts try to discuss issues and the Constitution.(Ex : Phil Hare) I think we are finally awakening to the fact that you don’t have to be intelligent to be a politician, all you have to be is a little smarter than the moron that is voting for you. Not much just a little. Hope we can get some improvement in November but, I won’t hold my breath.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      One of our biggest problems is that too many people think that elected officials are wiser than they are. They’re not. Most of them are power grabbing, self serving idiots. That’s why the guys who founded the country considered government a necessary evil and wanted it to have as little power over our lives as possible.

    • Blasto

      There is no bigger evidence that “too many morons” are voting than Dubya getting elected….twice. That is some moronization for you. You people crying for the GOPes to be back in control will get exactly what you deserve if it happens. It’s too bad you have to drag the rest of us with you..

      • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

        The GOP blew it’s chance because they all–beginning with Bush–acted too much like Democrats and tried too hard to get along. They got what they deserved in 06 and 08. But their failure to uphold conservative principles led to a left wing radical being elected and that has led to the Tea Party movement and that will lead to the tsunami that you’re going to see on November 2nd. If the GOP actually REDUCED spending, eliminated the Dept of Education, established private SS accounts and Medical savings accounts, and actually reduced the size and scope of the federal government, they would be in power for a long time. This isn’t about Republicans and Democrats. It’s about conservatives and liberals. John McCain wasn’t a conservative and neither was Bush.

        • Blasto

          Can’t argue with that John…a “true” conservative, at least fiscally, would probably get my serious consideration if he didn’t bash gays and abolish stem cell research along the way.

  • Mike

    Joe Miller from Alaska said he’s not talking about his past anymore either because it was found out he’s received farm subsidies, unemployment compensation and Medicaid. You know all those things he says are unconstitutional. Wonder what else he’s hiding.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      He’s fair game, too. That should be a sign for the media to go after him even harder.

      • Mike

        Of course then he’ll go on Fox News and play the victiim card.

  • howard

    We could use a little socialism. We already have it, and no modern era president was as socialist as Eisenhower. We’ve forgotten what it means to govern and respect the common good in this country, and a major reason is that the wingnuts are running the conversation.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      Yeah, let’s call Chavez and get some pointers from him since socialism has worked so well throughout history.

    • Paul

      No one needs a little socialism. And common good is the excuse despots use for controlling a gov’t and it’s people. “They know better.”

  • Mark reynolds

    What I see is a lot of information from 1983, when the guy was barely 21 years old. George Bush was an alcoholic at 21 years old and that doesn’t mean he is one now. Do you really have nothing better to do than to keep calling him a socialist? After 2 years, can you not think of something else?? Here’s a little hint. The more you say it, the more people get annoyed with it and just tune you out. Clinton wanted universal health care, so was he a socialist. Bush got prescription drugs, so was he a socialist? Was FDR who got social security a socialist? Was LBJ who got us Medicaid and Medicare? Come on, try something else please.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      I can’t believe so many of you are missing the point. Of course there are other politicians–including republicans who have caved in to stupid social programs in order to get elected. The difference is in Obama’s background. It’s not just what he said or did in 1983. It’s the pattern that he has followed his entire life. From being attracted to Marxist professors, to teaching the principlas of Saul Alinsky, to hanging out with Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers to telling Joe The Plumb er that he believes in spreading the wealth around and Obama care–a precursor to universal health care– down people’s throats.

      • Mark reynolds

        I know some shady characters and have in my 40 years hung out with them socially. Some of these people I even call my friends. I’m sure many of you have similar situations. I know people that do drugs, are bookies and do other illegal things, but that doesn’t mean that I’m doing the same things as them. I’m not one of them and I’m not going down their paths. Obama has had bad associates in the past and just as he should, he has distanced himself from them when he became President. If I became President, I’m sure advisors would tell me to ditch the guy that I’ve known for 20 years that does drugs. I really think you are just reaching because you do not like the guy or anything that he stands for.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          Come on. This isn’t about his drinking buddies and you know it. It’s about people and organizations that he sought out and then received political guidance and assistance from. combined with his own writings and recorded statements. He said the constitution is fundamentally flawed because it gives to much power to the individual and not enough to the government. I’ve heard him say it.

          • Mason

            John, it is scary to read some of these peoples posts. It is the result of the decades old liberal agenda. When people like Ayers realized they couldnt accomplish anything by bombing their own country, they made a concerted effort (and well advertised) to take over the education system. 40 years later, the education system and media outlets have a roughly 90% liberal slant. It is no wonder so many of these young people feel the way they do.

            People surround themselves with others that tend to think the same. To say you are friends with a drug dealer, but you are not a drug dealer, is simple logic. You may not be a drug dealer, but what other traits of that drug dealer might you have in common?

            Just because Obama didnt through bombs in a building, does not mean he does not believe in his cause. If you read anything about the project in the article – you will find that one of its main goals was to infiltrate the education system with far left radicals. they realized they could not change the mind of an adult, so they sought to indoctrinate children.

          • Gaylin Howards

            Mason, where are you coming up with this stuff? “you will find that one of its main goals was to infiltrate the education system with far left radicals. they realized they could not change the mind of an adult, so they sought to indoctrinate children.” Wow, really??? That’s a bit of a reach.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            Not a reach at all. That’s exactly what it was intended to do.

  • GeeWhiz

    “He’s the closest thing that we’ve ever had to a Manchurian Candidate”

    Heh, that’s laughable. You mean to tell me that George W. Bush wasn’t closer, seeing as he is from a political family and just as much a puppet as Obama? Everyone needs to take the elephant blinders off and see that this crap has been going on for quite a long time, not with just the liberals.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      Bush had connections, obviously. But he didn’t run or govern as someone he’s not. The equivalent would be finding out that Bush was sniffing around the Nazi party or Arian nation as a young man and teaching their principles but knew he could admit it and be elected.

      • Mark reynolds

        I compare this whole Obama thing and being a socialist with people saying that Bush and Cheney were really working alongside the Saudi’s and driving up oil prices and causing 9/11. Both are ridiculous.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          Wrong. There is no evidence about Cheney and Bush that comes close to what Kurtz is talking about.

      • Tim

        Bush campaigned on giving local school districts more control and then implemented No Child Left Behind. He ran as a small gov’t conservative and exploded the size of the Federal gov’t

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          Bush was definitely not conservative enough.

  • Ochotexto

    Yinz are nuts. The disparity in income has never been greater in this country. 20 yrs ago the CEO made 40 times as much as the average employee. Today it’s like 542 times as much., were not even close to socialism. Too much Fox news. He hasn’t raised taxes either. I’m surprised Mel Gibson isn’t on here.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      Did you read the piece? It has nothing to do with disparity in income now. The guy has been in office for 20 minutes. It’s about who he is and what he would like to do. The whole point of Kurtz’ piece, his book and all of his investigations is that this guy is a closet socialist who knew he couldn’t get elected if people knew what he really believed. The fairy tale that the media bought hook line and sinker about how he had no idea that Rev. Wright was such a rsadical and he barely knew Bill Ayers is not a minor deal. It’s about who the guy really is and where he would like to take the country. The brakes are going to be put on in three weeks,

      • John

        John, tell me what he’d like to do. Show me a party platform or proposed legislation that evidences Socialist policies. I know this will shock you, but Obama’s policies have generally been middle of the road. Put his policies in a blind/neutral poll and the majority of Americans favor them. The fear play doesn’t work with me, you’ve got to use logic. Unfortunately, logic isn’t on your side with this one.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          Have you heard the radio interview in which he said the Bill of Rights is flawed because it give to much power to the individual and not enough power to the government? The people that he follows….Alinsky, Cone etc. learned that the way to get what they want is to do it incrementaally. Obama is on the record for being in favor of universal health care. He knows that he can’t get it one fell swoop. He needs to put the insurance companies out of business first. That’s what Obamacare would do. Liberals are upset with him because Obamacare didn’t go far enough. They don’t know the principles laid out in Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals. It’s all about doing it in small pieces. He can’t just pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq. He can achieve a lot of his objectives by apoligizing for America and bowing to other leaders at every opportunity. The good news is that people are on to him now. He’s a weasel and an one term president.

          • Mark reynolds

            OK, a weasel is a bit much. The guy campaigned on “change” and that’s what he did. With bank reforms and health care. He said he was going to do that and he did. You can like it or not, but he has never said anything about having a complete gov’t takeover of health care or anything else. That is all propaganda used to scare people. People said the same thing about the car companies and banks and the last time I checked, we were just about out of all of them and in the process of getting out of GM. A poll was just conducted that said that 59% of the people actually like Obama. If people thought he was a weasel and “on to him”, 59% of people wouldn’t like him.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            They like him as a person. He seems like a pretty good guy to me. Just a socialist and a bad president. His job approval is at 42 and a recent poll had him in a statistical tie with GW Bush when people were asked who was a better president. I have HEARD him say that he wants universal health care. Again–he knows he can’t get it all at once. Obamacare is the first step. The insurance companies will be put out of business and the government then comes to the rescue. It’s a classic technique of socialists. He has said that the Bill of Rights is fundamentally “flawed” because it doesn’t give the government enough “redistributive power.” I’ve heard him say that, too. He said he believes in “spreading the wealth around.”

          • Tim

            where you getting 42% from? Rasmussen’s latest Daily Presidential Tracking poll had him at 47% and that was likely voters even.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            CNN Sept 24

            The president’s approval rating now stands at 42 percent – an all time low in CNN polling and 8 points lower than where Obama was only three weeks ago. Moreover, 56 percent of all Americans think the president has fallen short of their expectations…

          • Tim

            Poll I cited was more recent.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            You asked where I got 42 and I told you. There are lots of different polls and he ain’t goin’ up.

          • Tim

            Nice job cherry picking one poll and then riding with it. Rasmussen has been just about the best pollster out there the last several years.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            I agree about Rasmussen. I knew I had seen the 42 number and after your post I googled Obama 42% and thats what came up. Blame google and CNN.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            After your post I google Obama 42% and that’s what came up. Blame google and CNN.

          • Ochotexto

            When Bush had low numbers you said sometimes being popular isn’t the best thing to do.
            Hey., in your opinion., who performed better on their job ? Bush or Kordell ?

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            Both were better than they’ve been given credit for.

          • shimmy

            Kordell yes….Dubya no.

          • Paul

            Dude…less than half is less than half. People are starting to see through this guy.

          • Gaylin Howards

            I believe in the same poll, Congress had a 23% approval rating, so he’s actually doing a quite better than the rest of the politicians.

          • Federalist10

            Not true. He’s on record saying “I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program.” While he claims to have softened his views on that, it is more likely he is taking the incremental approach.

          • Gaylin Howards

            Does that mean Clinton was a socialist too since he tried to get universal health care? I believe LBJ wanted it as well.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            He wasn’t a committed socialist like Obama but believed in socialistic government programs. Universal health care is socialism. Both believed in a powerful federal govt. The worst dictators in the world thought universal health care was a great idea because of the power it gave them over their subjects. I’ll never understand how anybody who believes in the concept of a free country can want to give the government control over how, when and where they get health care. It’s in total conflict with the concept of consent of the governed.

      • Lefty

        What’s really funny here John, is that Obama’s base wishes he would lean more towards Socialism. That’s what we were hoping for when he was elected. Instead, he’s leaned so far to the center, accomplishing little in the process, that to hear him called a Socialist now is simply laughable.
        Again, no public option, no single payer, horrible wage and class disparity. I WISH he were socialist.
        And Bill Ayers isn’t a big deal to his base either. It was a different time. Deeply ingrained governmental discrimination and racism. A horrible war that killed thousands of citizens. I’m not too worried about Bill Ayers in the 2000’s, and really don’t care about what he did as an activist in the 60’s, other than feeling awful for those he hurt.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          Read Saul Alinsky;s Rule for Radicals. He’s a socialist and Obama makes it clear almost on a daily basis that he is following his leader. He and his mentors know that you can’t get it all at once. You have to get it incrementally. The liberals who are upset don’t know thew plan. Obamacare, if allowed to be implemented, will destroy the insurance industry. That has to happen first so that Obama can come to the rescue and get “free” health care for us all. The tsunami is coming in three weeks.

          • Mark reynolds

            Where are the facts? You can spout all of these things, but it’s coming across like someone that has nothing to back it up with. The article you referenced talks about events that happened in the 1980’s. And where does he make it clear on a daily basis that he’s a socialist and following his leader? Normally I can see where you get some of your points, but you are so far off on this one that I think you lost a lot of us with your logic.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            Do you understand the word INCREMENTALLY? I hope you do because if you don’t you’re missing the point. It’s not about what he’s done to this point as much as it is about what he would do if given the chance. His writings and his statements combined with what Kurtz has uncovered show that he is a socialist who has learned well that to “fundamentally transform the country”, which he has said he wants to do, it can’t be done all at once. It has to be done a little at a time. The tsunami that is coming in three weeks will bring his agenda to a screeching halt.

          • Gaylin Howards

            I do understand, but to a lot of us, you aren’t making sense. You are telling us that he’s leading us towards Socialism, but there’s just no proof. He’s following a lot of what Democrats talk about and Democrats aren’t Socialists. You are just trying to scare people and it isn’t working from the way people are responding on here.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            Stanly Kurtz did two years of research and he lays out all his socialist buddies and organizations that he’s joined. I’m not trying to scare anybody. He woiuld like to lead us to socialism. I’ve heard him say so without using the word socialism.

          • Blasto

            GOPes don’t rely on facts and proof. Rhetoric is all they need. Rhetoric is facts and proofs to that crowd.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            And none of what you post here is anything but fact. Got it. Thanks.

    • Pitt Alum

      Ochotexto, you and a lot of communists are walking a dangerous line with “class envy”…that’s exactly how Hitler got people to follow him…turn off football and pick up a history book…

      • Ochotexto

        So now if we disagree I’m Hitler. What kind of history did they teach you at Pitt ? I surely don’t envy your education., you don’t need a degree to be a Sean Hannity wannabe. I have no class envy., the majority of my friends are wealthy. It’s all about disparity of incomes and inequity.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          Being concerned or upset about disparity in income is OK. The issue is what do you want to do about it, or what do you want the GOVERNMENT to do about it. The top 10% in income arr already paying more than 70% of the income taxes. What would you do? Raise it to 90%?

        • Pitt Alum

          Not a Hannity fan at all, he’s just an apologetic for the right…i’m not comparing you to Hitler but to one of the sheeple that followed him…”it’s all about disparity of incomes and inequity,” that statement is class envy…come up with a good plan or idea of your own and execute it…if not, thank the guy who’s signing your paycheck and don’t worry about what he’s making…term limits for politicians solve everything with this current system…and one last thing, Pitt is far from a conservative institution…try reading, “Free to Choose,” by Milton Friedman…

  • John

    Generally, I’m opposed to the name calling you mentioned at the beginning of your post, but I think this one may have earned it.

    First, during the lead up to the 2008 elections, you couldn’t turn on the news or open up a paper without hearing or reading about Bill Ayers or Jeremiah Wright.

    Second, these articles by Kurtz seem like exercises in writing alot without saying anything. Aside from public record about Obama’s ties to the Annenberg Challange (which was actually a pretty noble venture supported by Bush SecEd Rod Paige) and a terrorist who happened to serve on the board with him, he doesn’t say ANYTHING except vague complaints and innuendos about being refused access to archives.

    Third, make unsupported statements about Obama being a socialist if you must, but doing so only shows that you don’t understand what a socialist is. Socialism is public or common ownership of what generally would be private businesses. Obama has been responsible for one (count’em ONE) policy push which could have been called socialism. (The bail out of Chevy and Chrysler – undoubtedly socialist, but I’m guessing the million+ Americans whose livelihoods are directly related to the auto industry don’t care.) Call Obama whatever names you want. However, when you’re dead wrong, people will call you the names you mentioned at the top.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      That’s what you got from what Kurtz wrote? Amazing. Reverent Wright was on Fox for 6 weeks before the rest of the media caught on and when Obama said, “Oh, gee, I didn’t know he said those things”, the media aceepted it and moved on. They also bought the BS about Obama just showing up at a coming out party at Bill Ayers’ home. Kurtz has proof that they had a relationship and mutual interests long before that. Being in Rev, Wright’s church should have disqualified him.

      • GeeWhiz

        So? What about the “religious nuts” that supported McCain, like John Hagee? And what about Rod Parsley? He never got press time, yet he said something along the line that it was the U.S. duty to wipe out Islam. McCain even said he was his “spiritual guide.”

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          Whackos pop up to support candidates all the time. Obama sat in Wright’s church for 20 years and then insulted everybody’s intelligence by saying he wasn’t aware of all those crazy things he had been saying. And he said he could never throw him over. Then he threw him over. The disturbing thing about Obama is his background and his affinity for socialism and Marxism.

          • Mike

            McCain actively support and accepted his support.

      • Mike

        The Pope covered up sexual abuse by Priests. That is far worse and more harmful than anything said by Jeremiah Wright. I don’t hear you railing against Catholics.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          When the Pope delivers a sermon in Chicago and takes the anti-American stance that Wright took every Sunday for 20 years, let me know.

          • Mike

            When Reverand Wright covers up the molestation of little boys let me know. To my understanding most of the controversy over Rev Wright is over statments he made condeming the United States for previous discrimination of women and minorities as well as saying that if Americans wanted to get involved in the affiars of other countries overseas they had to expect repercussions back home. Also why no comdemnation here of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell who had a discussion about how the “homosexuals, feminists and aboritionists caused 9/11”?

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            Apples and oranges. We’re talking politics and governing. Not religion.

          • Mike

            So what is your position on politicians who soliticit and accept the endorsements of right wing nut pastors like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. Your position on politicians who accept left wing nut pastors is well known at this point

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            If they’re spewin anti-American BS and going to Cuba and coming back talking about what a great job Fidel is doing, I’m not in favor of it. If they are whacky enough to interpret the bible literally, I don’t take them seriously but I wouldn’t compare them to people like Wright and Cone who are Marxists and vehemently anti-American.

          • Mike

            They are just as anti-American for thinking America should more represent a religious theocracy and saying natural disasters and terrorist attacks are caused by supposed sinners.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            No they’re not. I don’t remember any of the whackiest of them suggesting that it we should have a theocracy.

        • Pitt Alum

          Mike, how to you accept bad behavior by pointing out bad behavior?? nice argument…
          McCain is a clown too, career politician…why in the world would he spend over $20 million on a campaign for a position that pays $170K a year?? Had he won, this country would be moving in the same direction, just at a slower pace…give Obama credit, he’s doing what he said he would do…and he’s probably the only communist, excuse me, liberal, who could’ve motivated people to start the tea party…thanks Mr. President!!!

          you want to see the federal government shrink?? TERM LIMITS for these clowns!!! if they knew they had to go back to the private sector after say, 6 yrs, i bet they’d be voting a lot differently…

          • Mike

            Someone needs to explain to me why Meg Whitman would spend $140 million of HER OWN MONEY to inherit the mess that is the California budget.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            She thinks she can fix it and she has lots and lots of money. Unlike her opponent, she has has ctually had a real job.

  • Meathead

    Gotta wonder how many loyal Republican/TEA Partiers are now whining that they will again not get a COLA in their Social Security checks next year

    • Mason

      wow, lets put some thought into your remark. If someone pays into a system – by force, not their choice – they should expect to get what was promised. Lets do some simple math. I max my SS deduction, which is roughly $8000 per year. Let’s base it strictly on todays $$$, and say that I would pay that for 40 years. I have paid the government $320,000, not counting compounding interest. In a standard investment account, that would add up to well over $1,000,0000. In return, they will pay me about $1,500/mo and give me crappy medical coverage that will still force me to by a rider policy to cover additional items. And I should expect to get this for maybe 10-15 years before I die.

      Tea partiers want to eliminate programs like this because it is just another form of taxation – but they only want to eliminate it for younger people , and then implement a better approach. Of course the people that spent their lifes having their money confiscated want what they are owed.

      Typical 20 somthing. they like to only look one layer deep in any argument.

      • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

        Thomas Sowell calls it Stage One Thinking. I’ll be in line for my check. If I had kept my money and put it in a savaings account, I would have $1 million. I want some of it back. (Don’t forget that your employer also has to contribute to SS, which means money that could go to you is going to the govt. Ponzi scheme.)

        • Tim

          No one is calling you a hypocrite for taking social security when its available to you but how do you propose privatizing it for young workers while still being able to pay the benefits due to the Baby Boomers who have paid into the system for 30-40 years?

      • Gaylin Howards

        First off, savings accounts are paying about 0.2% interest, so if you put your money in a savings account, you’d actually lose money every year based on inflation. Second, the max social security benefit is $2,346. If you retire at 66 and live another 20 years, you’ll get $563,040 and that doesn’t take into account the cost of living increase that you’d normally get. If you live 30 years, you’ll get $844,560. So your argument is that you could put your money into a savings account that pays 0.2%. That wouldn’t come close to what you’d get through Social Security. And if you invested it on your own, based on market returns the last 10 years, you’d actually lose money.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          It’s paying 0.2% now. What has the average been over the last 30 years. I’m going to get 1500 a month. That’s 18,000 a year. if I live 25 more years, that’s $450,000. I could have at least that much invested now if I had been allowed to invest half of what they took out of my check and half of what my employer had to contribute. It’s a Ponzi scheme.

  • Dr. Phibes

    There’s been more research into whether Christine O’Donnell is a witch than there was into Obama’s background.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      See if Kurtz shows up on GMA or the Today Show and then ask yourself if he had written a book that was as unfavorable to a Republican if he’d be on those shows.

      • Mike

        I’m sure you’ll be kind enough to provide us a list of the liberally slanted books written by not well known columnists featured on GMA and the Today Show.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          It has nothing to do with well known. Kurtz is only not well known because he can’t get the major netoworks to pay attention to him.

          • Mike

            Isn’t being on Fox News enough? I thought they were dominating everyone in the ratings? And James O’Keefe managed to make himself pretty well known by dressing up as a pimp and infiltrating ACORN

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            Maybe. That doesn’t change the fact that the rest of the media are pathetically biased.

    • Tim

      Maybe if Republicans had spent more time researching his associations and less his birth they could of brought some of this to light before the 2008 elections.

  • Dr. Phibes

    I already know how this story will play out. Obamaniacs will deny, deny deny that he is a soclalist. Then, when ironclad proof is shown that he is, the argument will change to “it doesn’t matter if he is a socialist or not”.

  • Tim

    You’ll have to explain to me how Barack Obama who gets universal health care passed is regarded as a socialist while Mitt Romney who got state run health care in Massachusetts passed avoids the label of a socialist.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

      Look at Romney’s background and look at Obama’s. Bush is responsible for the prescription drug plan–a socialist program. That’s a bad idea and there are plenty of those in Washinton, most of which are based on the “sharing the wealth” idea but the people who propose them don’t have Obama’s radical history and associations.

      • Tim

        Backgrounds are irrelvant if they end up in the same place.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          Depends on how often they end up in the same place and what places they are trying to get to. Romney was the governor of a liberal state and apparently tried to curry favor with the voters by going for socialized medicine. I think he has some of Obama’s stealth tendencies. He flaps in the wind.

          • Tim

            He’s flip flopped on health care, abortion, gays in the military, immigration reform, campaign finance reform and gun control. Believe him at your own risk.

      • Tim

        PS – the link for the MMQB article is broken.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          Thanks,

    • Scootermojo

      Tim, I’ll just answer the question for you: Obama is a “socialist” because he’s not a Republican and Romney is not a socialist because he’s a Republican….that’s John’s line of thinking and train of thought regarding politics.

      If Dem does it he’s a devil but if a Repub does it….well, that’s just ok by John.

      Just look at his opinion regarding Major League Baseball for more hypocrisy: John cries up and down about socialism and this supposed spreading of the wealth…but that’s EXACTLY what he wants to happen in baseball and he conveniently leaves out the fact that MLB owners are businessmen first…but that’s ok because it’s john’s world.

      • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

        You’re not really bringing up the revenue sharing in baseball is socialism argument are you. Come on Scooter. Business men deciding to spread revenue in a professional sport that requires a level playing field in order to be taken seriously is not in the same solar system as the government FORCING us to share our wealth. That is so lame that I hate to waste the time pecking the keys to respond to it. The difference between Obama and Romney is not that one is a democrat and one is a republican. There are lots of republicans who go along with stupid socialist programs. Otherwise we wouldn’t have so many. The difference is in Obama’s background and his writings. Romney has been a flip flopper on issues. That’s what politicians do and that’s why I’m no big fan of his. But he does not have a history of associating with and teaching the principles of avowed socialists and Marxists. If you can’t see the difference, then there is no hope for you.

      • Ryan

        The best way I heard MLBs situation described was in Bob Costas’ book. The 30 MLB teams are like McDonalds franchises…whereas they’re not trying to put each other out of business. The way MLB is now, each are battling each other like McDonalds vs. BK vs. Taco Bell vs. Wendys.

    • Mason

      It is called States Rights. There is a difference between federal government and state government trying to do things like health care.

      • Tim

        Just because the state does it doesn’t make it any less socialist or redistributitve.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

          The state is the lesser of two evils. If you don’t like something that the state is doing, you can MOVE. That’s why the federl government was never intended to have the power and scope that it now has.

        • Mason

          For some reason (I would guess it is liberal teachers), young people today do not understand our founding documents. We didn’t become the greatest nation on earth by accident.

          • Mark reynolds

            Our founding documents were also meant to change or else women wouldn’t be allowed to vote and we’d still own slaves. We are the greatest nation because we adapt well compared with other countries and because we give everyone regardless of race, religion and gender a chance to have a successful life, whereas other countries are stuck in 1800’s mode.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

            The constitution can be AMENDED. And it was intentionally made extremely difficult to amend because the principles are not “living and breathing.” They’re eternal.

          • Mason

            Yes, they are setup to be Amended. But with a straight face you can compare giving women and minorities the right to vote, with interpreting the Constitution to say that the government can force every american citizen to buy a product, good or service?

            And where exactly does that pandora’s box end? will you feel the same way when R’s are in charge of everything?

          • Gaylin Howards

            I’m pretty sure freeing the slaves was a bigger change to law than making people buy health coverage. We fought a war over the slaves, so yes I can say it with a straight face. And I couldn’t care less if a Dem or a Rep came up with an idea. I look at the idea, not who came up with it. Maybe that’s your problem.

    • Lefty

      Where do you get Universal Health Care? We already have universal health care. As I’ve stated before, patients cannot be refused health care. Hospitals wind up paying the bill. There’s Medicaid which also pays for health care for the poor. The Health Bill isn’t “Universal Health Care.” It’s not “government run health care.” These are right-wing buzz words and talking points. If Obama had actually been a socialist (which itself isn’t inherently bad, John. There are different sects. Even a benevolent dictatorship has its appeal), THEN we would have true universal health care. But we don’t. And he’s not. And if you think a politician obscuring a shady personal relationship is ground breaking stuff, then you’re clearly delusional. That article did nothing for me. Not a thing. And there is about zero chance Obama is beaten in 2012. Not a chance.
      Sorry buddy.

      • http://justwatchthegame.com JohnSteigerwald

        If I’m wrong and he wins in 2012 maybe he can become a “benevolent dictator.” That’s some really scary stuff there, Lefty.

        • Paul

          No, there aren’t different “sects” of socialism. It’s a clearly defined set of beliefs on how power should be distributed. Saying there are different sects is merely an attempt to make yourself appear reasonable. Nice try.

          Also, there’s nothing good about a “benevolent dictator”. That benevolence comes at a price to someone else. You need to find a Cuban or a Venezuelan and ask them how they like their benevolent dictator. Better yet, take a little fact finding trip yourself. Maybe you’ll like it so much you can stay.