• Dan

    Interesting link about something I said before and I’ll say again – the best thing that ever happened for the Democrats was that sweeping Tea Party victory in the 2010 congressional races. By getting so many members elected, they were exposed as know-nothing do-nothings who only knew how to obstruct policy, thus ensuring a quick, clean death to the movement.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/06/tea-party-is-dead-how-the-movement-fizzled-in-2012-s-gop-primaries.html

  • Erik
    • http://justwatchthegame.com John Steigerwald

      We should drop out of the UN and kick every one of those socialist, idiot members of that worthless club out of the country.

      • JustAnotherBloke

        What about the members of the club that are in THIS country? I think there are just as many.

  • Rob M

    John, since you are so sure Obama is toast this year, are you willing to bet your mustache on it? Maybe do an event for charity of your choice the way Keisel does with his beard?

    • http://justwatchthegame.com John Steigerwald

      I don’t bet my mustache. It’s a phony bet. Last year there were several bloggers (who have since disappeared, strangely enough) who bet me that I couldn’t sell a thousand copies of “Just Watch The Game.” I offered to pay five dollars for every book I sold UNDER 1,000 if they would have paid me one dollar for every book OVER 1,000. They each would owe me about 7,000 dollars right now. They wouldn’t take that bet but they wanted me to bet my mustache –which meant they had nothing at stake. I wasn’t interested then and I’m not interested now.

  • Matt C.

    Dan, I had to copy and past the next quote from you to make sure it was right. “But they should be a model for how hard work and sacrifice can still turn it around” What hard work and sacrifice are you talking about? The taxpayers I hope. What concessions did the union make? What concessions did any of them make? Please let me know. The only sacrifice is the tax payers who had now has the onus of being more in debt because the the bail out. The whole auto bail out plan put in by the current administration is a joke. Lets see the “Cash for Clunkers” scam. All that did was take cars that could have been traded in and then resold to middle class Americans and had the cars destroyed. How many of those cars would have been resold where lower middle class citizens and the “poor” class would have been able to buy them were destroyed? All of them. Perfectly good used vehicles trashed. It was a stupid plan. Bailing out businesses that are losing money is a bad policy for a government to take. I can bet that if the UAW did not give so much money to the liberals that the bail out would have never happened. The current leadership in this country is only worried about protecting union workers only. Look at Boeing. They were not allowed to open up a plant because it would have been a non-union workplace.

  • Mike from Monroeville

    They must have caught the crowd returning home from the Denny’s early bird special.

  • Dan

    Error margin of plus or minus 3%. In a poll of 500 people.

    They brought up the silly notion tha Obama somehow can’t run on his record on Real Time last night. Maher brought up that Joe Biden has been using the slogan “Bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive.” Sounds pretty good to the average Joe who we all agree doesn’t start paying attention until after Labor Day. Five straight months of good economic news. Suze Orman pointed out that job growth – PRIVATE sector job growth, the kind that make conservatives drool – has accelerated since the beginning of 2010. Wes Moore pointed out that Obama can stand on the fact that he repealed Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, and that if you get seriously ill it won’t send you and your family into economic ruin anymore. And Rick Lazio fairly pointed out that there has been 36 straight months of 8% + unemployment.

    Not a perfect record, but not the bastardized shell that the Teabaggers would have you believe. He can absolutely run on his record.

    • http://justwatchthegame.com John Steigerwald

      It’ll be fun to watch. I’m not so sure the taxpayers bailing out GM is a positive. It’s a Rasmussen poll –the most accurate. What would you have said three years ago if I had told you Obama would be in a statistical tie with Rick Santorum 9 months from the election?

      • Dan

        In hindsight, I think it was, and that’s just my personal opinion. It saved a lot of jobs and it gave GM a second chance to actually get it right. They cut a lot of waste out of their business and started making better, more fuel-efficient, built to last vehicles than ever. GM’s cars can now legitimately stack up against foregin competition. Chevy, for example, used to be a fleet of tin cans and the line is enjoying a new breed of success that looks like it will last for a long time.

        We couldn’t lose GM in this country. Cars are an American invention and are what connected us from coast to coast. The bailout was a re-investment in the company and I think it was great. We didn’t meekly bow out to the Germans and the Japanese. Yea, GM was a mess and their problems were their own doing. But they should be a model for how hard work and sacrifice can still turn it around. They got help from the federal government, and I’m OK with that, because that money was used to save jobs, save some industry, and put the company back on it’s feet to where it could support itself again.

        • http://justwatchthegame.com John Steigerwald

          http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/05/gms-bailout-has-been-a-huge-net-loss/238795/

          “No, the question was not whether GM could make a profit after a bankruptcy that stiffed most of its creditors and shed the most grotesque burdens of its legacy costs, nor whether giving companies money will make them more profitable. The question is whether it was worth it to the taxpayer to burn $10-20 billion in order to give the company another shot at life. To put that in perspective, GM had about 75,000 hourly workers before the bankruptcy. We could have given each of them a cool $250,000 and still come out well ahead compared to the ultimate cost of the bailout including the tax breaks–and over $100,000 a piece if we just wanted to break even against our losses on the common stock.

          And if we’d done that, we’d have saved ourselves in other ways. We would have reduced some of the overcapacity that plagues the global industry. We would not have seen the government throwing its weight into a bankruptcy proceeding in order to redistribute money from creditors to pensioners, which isn’t a good precedent.”
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          I like to apply the helicopter test to this kind of government overstepping. I ask the question, would we all have been better off if the federal government had just gone up in a helicpoter over Detroit and thrown $10 or $20 billion out the window. I think the answer is yes in this case. Kind of like the $700 million being spent on the subway tunnel under the Allegheny River. Think what it would have done for the economy if they had just thrown the $700 million out of a helicopter over the North Shore.

          • Dan

            But the article is missing the main point, that GM is still there, still putting people ot work, still making a product and hopefully it will for another 100 years. That’s a much better alternative than just giving people a check and letting the company fold. To me, at least. GM will make up that loss over time, no?

            I won’t argue on the subway tunnel. I’m right there with you on that.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com John Steigerwald

            It’s not supposed to be about what makes you feel good. It’s about whether the money that is being forcibly taken from us and redistributed is being wisely spent. How many other “tunnels” do you think there are around the country? People in Iowa are being forced to pay for that stupid thing and we are being forced to pay for whatever stupid federal boondoggle is in progress in Iowa. And how about the Pittsburgh Airport? Have you talked to anybody who works there? It’s like a ghost town. How much were we forced to pay for that piece of shit?

        • Mike V

          I agree Dan. Detroit is now producing cars all Americans should be proud of. Most of which are made here in the USA. Was it worth a little over spending? I think so. It’s sort of like when people complain about the cost of a single job in a sewer project…How much would someone pay to not have shit backing up into their basement because the sewer system in their town didn’t work properly.

          In terms of the bailout, I’m mostly for it for many of the same reasons you say. My problem is the nonsense with the Focus and other types of electric cars the Obama administraion is promoting. They are complete junk and our money went into developing them. No only are they junk, but if everyone owned one, there wouldn’t be enough electrical capacity to “fuel” them because Obama thinks solar panels are the wave of the future and not nuclear power.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com John Steigerwald

            Millions of “little over spendings” is why were a zillion dollars in debt.

          • http://justwatchthegame.com John Steigerwald

            Millions of “little over spendings” is why were a zillion dollars in debt.

      • Chad Farthouse